- The fact of the terrorist attack in Domodedovo filed five criminal cases. It is clear that the investigation will understand, but it is clear that to attack the international airport is not difficult. The siloviki shift responsibility for airport security, airport to the police, the police said that in general, and passed by the terrorist attack did not know anything, Medvedev promised to punish all the managers and owners of the airport. So after all, who's to blame?.
- I can answer you this question is simple, but make it clear, I'll start from a distance.
If we talk about combating terrorism, then yes, the struggle in Russia, it is. When we speak of ... But we do not have an explicit anti-terror policy. You, of course, I ask: what is the difference between poverty and politics. I 'll tell you what the difference is in the subjects and objects. The subject of the fight - intelligence, the object - the terrorists. If we are talking about anti-terrorism policy, the subject of this policy is the supreme political power, and the object - the entire population. And its purpose is to create consciousness among the population of anti-terrorism.
We must eliminate the causes of the terrorist threat. Need to work laws, and not just the legal framework was created, we need a system of harmonizing different interests in society. It is essential that the various political and social forces were involved in the decision-making process. Under these powers, I mean not only the parties but also scientists, experts.
- Excuse me, but as political parties and scientists can prevent a terrorist attack?.
- You see the narrow. If we do not just fight against terrorism and conducting counter-terrorism policy, the scientists conducting the study of security issues. Here's an example. We have the Internet. On the Internet you can track the actions of extremists and terrorists. Or take the case to the very airport Domodedovo. On the TV show New Year's collapse in Domodedovo, and TV watching, not only ordinary citizens, but also the organizers of the attacks. At this point, and experts have to say, guys, it will see the terrorists.
Or here's another recent example, the arrest of General Alexander Bokov, who is accused of fraud in the $ 46 million. The palace which he built himself, is worth almost one billion rubles. Inside the palace - Occasional furniture, expensive weapons. And then we say: ... A palace is worth - and normally. Money is there, but they are in a different place. And just now caught the general! .
- Still, in this case who is responsible?.
- Responsibility for the one who organizes the whole system. Since we have solved all the problems within the state apparatus, then blame whoever is in charge of this unit.
- That is a hello to Vladimir Putin?.
- You understand me correctly, but that's how you say, hey, not only to Putin. But he, too,. We 're talking about the performance of the whole system of the state apparatus. Yes, now everyone will transship the responsibility to each other. Chaos is that the responsibility of specific individuals is not marked.
Of course, there should be more public scrutiny. Of course, the security services should be more open - not in terms of operational and investigative work as well in terms of disclosing information on the expenditure of funds in terms of the effectiveness of interventions. A lot of money is allocated - including on airport security. But just where they go, the money? .
- Is it all just now discovered that the system of airport security is a weak spot? .
- I'm your wonderful sense of humor, of course, completely support. The trouble, of course she teaches. But all terrorists are always hit where fine. I again remind you about the collapse of the New Year. Terrorists clearly showed the crowd the people, there is no light, to solve problems no one can.
- For the second time you repeat that terrorists have shown on TV New Year chaos in Domodedovo. And now that does not show?.
- No, I do not say. We must first show, and then immediately clean up. And it went to the prosecutor's check back! . Prosecutors were obliged to pay attention to the issues of counter-terrorism. Check - it must be integrated. If you would have put things in order, then maybe, somehow managed to prevent a terrorist attack, or at least minimize the number of victims.
- What happen interruption of transmission lines at another airport, the situation would have developed in some other way?.
- After all, it was also not only for electricity. Remember, they had plenty of challenges. There were problems with alarm when passengers were accommodated in the hotel and immediately sent them to the plane. It's all heard the terrorists! . The airport has to act like a machine.
- How does the system of countering terrorism abroad? .
- The right way! . All services are aware that in the event of an emergency, the society will exact from them with the utmost rigor. Everyone in his place clearly fulfills its work. It does not matter who he is - a policeman, a soldier, a simple guard. Let me give an example. There was a case in which a terrorist in Israel trying to go to the big supermarket. At the entrance he was met by a guard who was working, then this place is literally five minutes, just got a job in the service. But he began testing a potential terrorist according to the rules, and a terrorist at the entrance to the building blew himself up along with the guard. This first came to the guard, but his so- clocked, both instructed to check each visitor that the person performing the work, sacrificed his life.
- Austria's Der Standard published the opinion of an expert on Russia Mangotta Gerhard, who believes that ... Do you agree? .
- Yes, absolutely agree. While there is no effective anti-terrorist policy, as we only ... Remember, a terrorist attack in the subway on March 29 [ 2010 ]. What was done? . Of the order induced, though there is no threat. And as a society should calm down. And the society has calmed down, the heroes received medals.
Range of manual controls - no more. I've been on the other hand I do not understand. Sometimes a state of emergency. The president or prime minister says the Minister of Health and Social Development Tatyana Golikova: ... Where the system, then? . It seems that if the president did not give the team Golikova, it would not go? . We do not see people. We always see only the first person, what fine fellows they are. And if everything depends on them, so the system does not. This means that we no.
- You know, now begins the hysteria. The president, prime minister, law enforcement officers for a while everything will be ... But the hysteria will pass and everyone will forget. And so on until a new attack. Where fear tomorrow? .
- Here it is impossible to predict. Terrorists can strike anywhere. Yes - and schools and hospitals. Although after the Beslan school somehow managed to restore order, but if rasslabuha will thrive, then you can wait for the attack. They will always find a weak spot. Terrorists do not just make decisions: they walk, look, looking for information. Note: the undermining of the airport, as well as an explosion in the subway in March, occurred on Monday. So, come Sunday, have studied, have undermined.
- And if the terrorists can blow up the Kremlin or other important public institution, since it was so easy to smuggle explosives into an international airport?.
- The Kremlin, of course not. Although if there is a weak spot, it may be anything. But they will not go there to climb, it's still a protected object. They will strike at transport nodes, objects of social value - to the places where there are people, many of them, they are not protected.
- What now needs to be done to the Russian authorities in order to appease world opinion? . It is, incidentally, will be almost in the North Caucasus. But the races are coming, ...
- Every act of terrorism - it is a hint. Blown Domodedovo, they hit the international image of Russia. For this purpose, and the attack was carried out. How to reassure? . We must show that there are institutions of public security and social mechanisms.
- According to you, it turns out, people should protect themselves, including from terrorists.
- So, maybe with this and we should start? . Because the state did more public safety is engaged. There is also the state, public and personal safety.
Everyone thinks that ensures public safety police. But maybe it is something not to do? . For example, citizens of the city of Perm state: ... And the police let him compete with these offices in the competition. Quite a different approach! . Or investigations, we do not want our case the Investigation Committee, we no longer believe in the private detective agencies. And you guys still do not manage, go brush up or allow their corruption problems. This, of course, science fiction, but when the government and non-state actors will act as an equal, then we can talk about effective institutions of social control.
After a broadcast of CCTV cameras can go to the Internet, and each person can monitor and report: ... Intelligence agencies to check and, for example, find out the truth, and the suspicious. The man who found a threat, guaranteed financial incentives. As in the U.S., where the Mexican border is controlled only in this way, a video camera. That is the social control. More information, more openness.
- In this connection immediately reminded of the recent events at the Manege. Then, too, something I decided independently to ensure their safety. Passion has not yet subsided, and then attack. Now, Caucasians generally better not leave home without travmatiki?.
- I am only talking about information technology. Well, go - no go. If you will operate the system of public safety, all criminals, including terrorists, they know that they are under the supervision of big brother. They feel uncomfortable. Only there was a suspicious person - he was immediately seized and tied up.
- Its the same people from the North Caucasus?.
- Maybe it is an approach to apply - to the brothers in the faith did not prevent them live a normal life and work in Moscow. They, too, is beginning to shake, and it is not profitable. And they have to say, here's the Internet, identify, and we'll guarantee it for a good reward.
Discuss.
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